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Article has "This section needs to be updated" tags in five sections: Economy, Transport, Demographics, Education, Sports, and As of 2019, the Croatian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and European Integration employed 1,381[needs update]. It also has "needs additional citations for verification" tag for Sports, and a 'citation needed' in Healthcare section. 'clarification needed' is in Independent Croatia (1991–present) section. With 6 big orange templates article needs work to remain a GA. Artem.G (talk) 19:00, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Slightly longer than preferable, and with some oversubsectioning. However, overall not a bad article as far as country articles go, hopefully this can be fixed. CMD (talk) 07:54, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delist: sections need to be updated, while citations are needed in selected places. As CMD noted, should be fairly easy to get back to GA standard, should someone wish to. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:17, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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There are alternate pronunciations of the English word "Croatia", including "krow-AH-tee-uh" (common in England), "KROW-tee-uh" (common among the African American community), and "KRAY-sha" (usually associated with Australia). These should be represented in the article, possibly as a footnote. 166.196.79.79 (talk) 22:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had previously removed this question as it seemed to be a weird troll. In case it's not clear, these claims seem like blatant violations of WP:OR and WP:HOAX. Anonymous user, if you want to be taken seriously, please cite sources. --Joy (talk) 07:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is missing certain points in its 'establishment history' section. Some others should be rewritten in a more precise manner. In particular, additions should include the shortlived State of Slovenes, Croats, and the Serbs (the first Yugoslav pan-Slavic state) in 1918 and, The Independent State of Croatia in 1941.
It is also more accurate to spcicify the 'Creation of Yugoslavia' as a kingdom, the First Yugoslavia, and further, to add the establishment of the Socialist, Second Yugoslavia in 1945, after the collapse of the Independent State of Croatia. Kupøla0 (talk) 13:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the problematic part about overly broad infobox fields like "establishment history", they necessitate this sort of editorializing while ostensibly providing a summary.
It would make sense if we made the article consistent with others. I first checked these:
Germany - FA-class, no establishment history in infobox
At the time of FA assessment in 2011, it was 4 entries, huge span
At the time of GA assessment in 2020, it was 4 entries, huge span
So the general pattern seems to be that historical span doesn't matter much. These lists tend to get inflated over time, but the gold standard is around 4 entries or less.
Croatian history is somewhat more layered compared to a number of other countries, but that is a different topic. Since there are already 9, adding just these 2 more would fully complete Croatia's historical establishment overview. With respect and, more importantly though, comparing the number of entries to those of different countries is simply pointless. Accuracy and thoroughness in information is of sole importance. A good day! :) Kupøla0 (talk) 14:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox is largely a summary of a summary (i.e. summary of the lead section which is itself a summary of the article). This means that it is not a place to present all polities, but only the most significant ones and especially not debatable ones (such as the SHS and the NDH which are normally excluded from "successions" of Croatian states as states not sanctioned by royal succession or parliamentary procedure). If it is necessary to present all 9 or 11 incarnations together for them to make sense, none should be included in the infobox. It should be quality over quantity in this area.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the Establishment history section could and should be further shortened rather than expanded. EU and NATO memberships are not key events in the country's formation. Secession from Austria-Hungary is somewhat redundant with creation of Yugoslavia (the latter is a key event). –Vipz (talk) 02:49, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NATO and EU can be certainly removed because they don't have anything to do with the section. Secession from Austria-Hungary and joining of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs were officially declared by the Croatian Parliament. The Kingdom of SHS and Yugoslavia weren't officially declared by the Croatian Parliament, NDH was merely a short-lived occupation puppet-state, basically both states were usurping the State of SHS (and specifically of Croatia). There was also Democratic Federal Yugoslavia, but that's not needed, but there should be a link to Socialist Republic of Croatia.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 03:06, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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